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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

Forget all of rhetoric about 'democracy' and/or the lack thereof. The reality is that 'democracy' is dying because it doesn't get things done.

For better or worse, El Salvador is the future. Liberalism leads to men pretending to be women so that they can cheat at sports. I have a standard comment about this.

“China is very good at building dams, the US is very good at enforcing PC. Which system will prevail in the 21st century?”

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Travis's avatar

I would rather have recourse in the political system than increased efficiency. I believe many well-to-do moderns also feel that way.

Making the pie bigger is great. I think technocratic governance is cool and good actually. I also think it has to come out of a popular democratic framework even if that makes the technocracy less efficient.

Example: I want more bike lanes, but I'm not going to unilaterally push for cars/drivers to be abolished. I want to convince them that more bikes means less traffic. I want my fellow citizens to believe in my idea thru convincing as opposed to enforcing it on high.

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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

Your preferences don't matter. My preferences don't matter. What matters is what works. If democracy yields government paralysis, then democracy will die. Let me use an example. Several Chinese governments tried (and failed) to eliminate the scourge of Opium. They failed. The communists used firing squads. They succeeded.

Singapore has a democratically elected government. Singapore is frequently described an an 'authoritarian democracy'. Singapore uses hanging. The bottom line is simple. Liberal governments don't survive, even if we want them to.

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Travis's avatar

Liberal governments don't survive is quite the statement. How sure are you in % terms this is correct?

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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

Yes, we have numbers. See "NEW REPORT: Global Freedom Declines for 17th Consecutive Year, but May Be Approaching a Turning Point" (https://freedomhouse.org/article/new-report-global-freedom-declines-17th-consecutive-year-may-be-approaching-turning-point). Quote "WASHINGTON—Global freedom declined for a 17th consecutive year in 2022 as 35 countries suffered deterioration in their political rights and civil liberties, according to a new report released today by Freedom House". Freedom has come to mean men pretending to be women so that they can cheat at sports. It's over.

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