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Isabelle Williams's avatar

Police, ICE, or any federal agents shooting someone is always a tragedy, always wrong. And I am always against heavy handed government and government over reach. I am a pro freedom, a libertarian democrat . Former democrat anyway, covid made me switch parties.

BUT, I have some questions. If there are lots of illegal immigrants in this country due to Biden's open border policy. How do you get them to go home?

Isn't it a problem when protestors actually impede federal agents doing their jobs? As Renée Good did? Protesting is one thing, impeding federal agents is another. Why is this okay?

Of course, she shouldn't have been shot. But lets be real, don't we all know that messing around with armed government agents, police or otherwise, is a dumb and risky thing to do?

Don't the ICE agents deserve some respect? ( and no, they shouldnt shoot people).

What are these protestors really up to? Do they intentionally promote violence? I have been a protestor myself ( for other issues). Its really not hard to stay out of trouble. I am confused as to why protestors who are more or less inviting violence by hindering ICE agents from doing their lawful job - why are these protestors heros?

Warden Gulley's avatar

Those who claim that ICE agents are fulfilling their responsibilities as agents of the US government are woefully misinformed. At one time, ICE agents were responsible for immigration and customs. Simple. Fraud investigations, sex trafficking and pursuing pedophiles are the responsibilities of other law enforcement agencies. How are beatings, detainment and shooting US Citizens in the head at point blank range any part of ICE’s responsibilities? Masked, camo-jacketed thugs in jeans and carrying Vietnam War era weaponry are not representative of any domestic law enforcement or military agency. Cops don’t look like this. Marines don’t look like this. Nor does any soldier, sailor or airman. And they don’t behave this way. They do not act out this cruel, brutal cosplay wanna-be video game thuggery. This is performative political intimidation. Face it. Recognize it. Admit it. HUA. This is not about immigration or border control or fraud or sex trafficking or breaking up pedophilia rings. It is about intimidation of the American people. Don’t make excuses for these thugs or their bosses. That's pathetic. As it is now structured, ICE’s mission is the intimidation and subjugation of the American people.

The Ivy Exile's avatar

I agree with many of your points and would certainly like to see ICE use a much lighter touch. That said, sanctuary cities are making essentially the same arguments that the Confederates and the southern segregationists made, that their preferred way of doing things deserves to override federal law. We wouldn't be seeing such ugly incidents going on if Minnesota police departments were allowed to simply hand over convicted felons with final deportation orders, and the Minnesota politicians insisting upon sanctuary policies are behaving every bit as inappropriately and counter to American principle as the ICE officers in the disturbing footage coming out of Minneapolis. I would much prefer to see the administration pull simply pull a major chunk of federal funding from sanctuary jurisdictions to encourage them to course-correct rather than the counterproductive antics ICE is pursuing at the moment.

Michelle Kuo's avatar

thank you for the moral clarity of your writing.