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Frallen's avatar

The commenters below sum it up pretty nicely. As a recovering progressive with many progressive friends who fit the quintessential affluent liberal mold, married to a bright red conservative, I can tell you it has been a real struggle at times to actually listen really deeply to my husband and his orbit. I lived in Austin Tx for 27 years (the blueberry in the tomato soup as Rick Perry amusingly put it years ago) but have lived in small Texas sommunities for long stretches as well so I think I have earned the street cred here to comment. My observation is that there is an intolerant, sanctimonious, authoritarian streak in the progressive mindset that sets teeth on edge (I speak in general, there are individual exceptions of course). It is a scolding, critical and self-righteous spirit that disrespects any concerns conservatives have about many of the cultural issues of our day. It is so much more trouble to listen to people, engage with their concerns, accept they are where they are and be IN RELATIONSHIP with them and trust that will eventually win the day. And yet that is the only way real changes of heart are accomplished. Trump is where he is because the left agenda comes across as you WILL SUBMIT and a pox on your concerns you bigot. No one knows more than me how vexing Trump can be, and how unreal our current situation is. But conservatives especially do not take kindly to being told/forced to do things or disrespected, really most people don't like it. Someone who fights back with the relish Trump does has their vote. Basically it brings us where we are today. I know I know. To tolerate is to be complicit, that has been swallowed hook, line and sinker. But maybe that assumption is wrong and plays more on your insecurities about being a good person than it is about transforming folks. Love means taking people where they are. I suggest a reading by Thicht Nhat Hanh where he described a PTSDd ex soldier who came to Plum Village as an example. Also, Daryl Davis, black musician who has directly or indirectly converted as many as 200 KKK members to renounce that group. My marriage and coming around to see with my husband's eyes has been emotionally wearing and tearing, caused my relationships with my best friends to cool at times, but the learning about myself and about Love has been incomparably valuable. I have learned that maybe much more valuable to my evolution as a human has been less about being 'right' about issues and more about learning to love and respect. Slow work (which the modern mind really hates) but I'm convinced it's really the only way for all of us for the long haul.

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Elana Gomel's avatar

Only people who do not know history are surprised by Trump’s success. The last century showed endless examples of having to choose between two evils. In the 1930s, who did you root for : Nazis or Communists? In World War 2, did you support Hitler or Stalin? I am not saying that Trump (or even Chavez) is in the same league as the great dictators. But for a lot of people, Biden and the left represent a true and profound danger. Some of MAGA people are true believers. But for many swing voters, the choice is between two bad candidates who represent two conflicting worldviews. And as chaotic as Trump is, they reject the ideology and practice of the “progressive” left so strongly that by default, they may vote for Trump.

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