The election, like for 2016 and 2020, is one of establishment vs anti-establishment. There are a number of so called moderate Republicans that support Trump because they have been alarmed with the actions of the establishment under Democrat control.
“As Liz Cheney put it to her Republican colleagues who are fully aware of Trump’s disqualifying actions yet continue to support him all the same: “There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.”
I think Liz Cheney is projecting HER situation on those that support Trump.
More commentary on how political partisans change their values like they change their socks is not why I subscribe to Persuasion. Frankly, I’m sick to death of it. This dead horse has been beaten so many times that there is nothing left to batter.
I subscribe because I share Yascha’s commitment to universalist values and liberal democracy. Perhaps, a focus on the pusillanimity of “moderates” could be said to fall within that, but I find it tiresome all the same.
I am not sure that it is possible to be a partisan and virtuous in the current environment. Perhaps it never was. The parties appear to me to be inconsistent, incoherent, and undemocratic. Do I live in a democratic republic when I will not have the opportunity to vote for whom I want as candidate of either party? Millions of others will not either, which is why the majority do not want to swallow what the parties are serving up.
I live in a closed primary state. We were not going to have a choice in the Democratic primary and there is no opposition in the Republican primary. So no choice at all.
The parties are the problem. The base of the parties is the problem.
Are you suggesting that citizens should be forced to join an organization if they want to participate in democracy?
In Federalist No. 10 Madison defined a faction as “a number of citizens, whether amounting to a minority or majority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adverse to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.”
Madison gave us a perfect description of today’s political parties. Neither party supports the commonly agreed upon liberal values that came out of the Second World War.
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. warned about the situation we find ourselves in at that time. So too did Hannah Arendt.
The only things that the parties agree on is their disdain for the rule of law and the utility of force. Of course, I am ignoring the insatiable appetite for power and money.
Politico reported last November that the Florida Democratic Party intended to offer the choice of Joe Biden or Joe Biden, thus deliberately disenfranchising millions of Floridians. The Republican primary disenfranchised millions more.
I think that forcing people to join a political party should remain within the domain of China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuela. Our system is broken and is not a model for the world. Our constitution is, but the parties are nowhere to be found in it. Let them form a sports team, where they can fight it out without ruining the Republic.
The Democrats want DJT to be nominated, and _lose_. They love having him as an albatross to hang around the Republican Party’s collective neck. They love tarring everyone who associates with him with that brush, as if there were any chance that DJT might sit alone in the empty White House for four years.
If Joe Biden wins we will spend the next four years praying he remains in office, to keep his VP out of it.
This is so sad, to me. While I disagreed with Tim Scott in the past, I thought he was someone who would draw a line at some point when it came to Donald Trump. Compromise is a part of what makes peaceful politics possible. At the same time not all compromises are okay, and one consideration is a moral one, and whether a certain act of compromise might enable someone poised to do real danger to our republic. Mr. Scott's decision to compromise, in the specific way he has, I think, is wrong.
The election, like for 2016 and 2020, is one of establishment vs anti-establishment. There are a number of so called moderate Republicans that support Trump because they have been alarmed with the actions of the establishment under Democrat control.
“As Liz Cheney put it to her Republican colleagues who are fully aware of Trump’s disqualifying actions yet continue to support him all the same: “There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.”
I think Liz Cheney is projecting HER situation on those that support Trump.
More commentary on how political partisans change their values like they change their socks is not why I subscribe to Persuasion. Frankly, I’m sick to death of it. This dead horse has been beaten so many times that there is nothing left to batter.
I subscribe because I share Yascha’s commitment to universalist values and liberal democracy. Perhaps, a focus on the pusillanimity of “moderates” could be said to fall within that, but I find it tiresome all the same.
I am not sure that it is possible to be a partisan and virtuous in the current environment. Perhaps it never was. The parties appear to me to be inconsistent, incoherent, and undemocratic. Do I live in a democratic republic when I will not have the opportunity to vote for whom I want as candidate of either party? Millions of others will not either, which is why the majority do not want to swallow what the parties are serving up.
Do you vote in primaries? Do you participate in the local party organization?
I live in a closed primary state. We were not going to have a choice in the Democratic primary and there is no opposition in the Republican primary. So no choice at all.
The parties are the problem. The base of the parties is the problem.
Are you suggesting that citizens should be forced to join an organization if they want to participate in democracy?
In Federalist No. 10 Madison defined a faction as “a number of citizens, whether amounting to a minority or majority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adverse to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.”
Madison gave us a perfect description of today’s political parties. Neither party supports the commonly agreed upon liberal values that came out of the Second World War.
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. warned about the situation we find ourselves in at that time. So too did Hannah Arendt.
The only things that the parties agree on is their disdain for the rule of law and the utility of force. Of course, I am ignoring the insatiable appetite for power and money.
Politico reported last November that the Florida Democratic Party intended to offer the choice of Joe Biden or Joe Biden, thus deliberately disenfranchising millions of Floridians. The Republican primary disenfranchised millions more.
I think that forcing people to join a political party should remain within the domain of China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuela. Our system is broken and is not a model for the world. Our constitution is, but the parties are nowhere to be found in it. Let them form a sports team, where they can fight it out without ruining the Republic.
The Democrats want DJT to be nominated, and _lose_. They love having him as an albatross to hang around the Republican Party’s collective neck. They love tarring everyone who associates with him with that brush, as if there were any chance that DJT might sit alone in the empty White House for four years.
If Joe Biden wins we will spend the next four years praying he remains in office, to keep his VP out of it.
What do we pray for if DJT wins?
You'd think they'd have learned their lesson in 2016.
Rather funny to write this story of article and remark so openly that Tim Scott was “one of the good ones”
This is so sad, to me. While I disagreed with Tim Scott in the past, I thought he was someone who would draw a line at some point when it came to Donald Trump. Compromise is a part of what makes peaceful politics possible. At the same time not all compromises are okay, and one consideration is a moral one, and whether a certain act of compromise might enable someone poised to do real danger to our republic. Mr. Scott's decision to compromise, in the specific way he has, I think, is wrong.
But Pence got what he wanted no? Look at the Supreme Court - if Trump is Cyrus the Great then you cannot say that he has not delivered