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Seva's avatar

Would we have been better off if the democrats had won the election and Kamala was in charge? “Seeking asylum” is in effect open borders since it overwhelms “due process.” Democrats say all migrants, not only gang members, must have due process but there is no way we can give due process to 12 million migrants who came here during Biden’s term. This then is a deadlocked and impossible situation. I voted for Trump 3 times but now agree that he’s a disaster but would the democrats have been any better? Both sides seem intent on destroying the country although I still prefer the republicans since at least they want borders, meritocracy and don’t consider me racist white trash for being white, working class and conservative.

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HP's avatar

“We lack a common reality” as a reason not to follow the law sound almost Kendi-esque.

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Seva's avatar

When was Biden following the law with his lawfare, open borders and war on meritocracy? No society so devoid of trust and so full of hate can survive as a nation. Could it be that the reason why America is so rapidly unraveling externally is because it has already ceased to exist as a country internally?

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I’m not sure exactly what you think due process entails. At a basic level it’s making sure you have the right person and that their legal rights have been verified. Now how could that be so hard? How complex that process should be is an entirely different question. Note that the Trump regime did not reform the process, they bypassed it completely, and they try to justify themselves by saying that they are the government. That is exactly how monarchies worked in the pre-democratic age.

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“Now how could that be so hard?”

The fact that you think it’d be easy to give some kind of “due process” to millions of people that we know nothing at all about is a good example of why America is disintegrating. This is just not working at all. God only knows where we’ll all end up.

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Verifying people’s identities? Is that so hard? Checking on what basis they are in the country? Only expel them when you are sure they have no right to be there? That does not seem so complicated, especially not for a country that sent people to the moon.

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You claim it’d be a simple matter to verify and give due process to 12 million people. I think that’s absurd. We lack a common reality, have become incomprehensible to each other and can no longer communicate. Where is the common ground in such an infinitely wide divide? There obviously is none.

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