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Charles McKelvey's avatar

A very thorough, informative, and insightful discussion of recent trends in the media, academia, and activism in the United States. From my vantage point, the discussion makes clearer the profound ethnocentric and ahistorical character of the recent U.S. movement, which has been incapable of imagining that the issues related to the construction of a just society have been central to the social revolutions forged by the peoples of the global South and East for 100 years, which have attained important gains in political-economic practices, of significance for all of humanity.

I like Nellie’s method of “traveling around, visiting places, talking to people, and writing about it.” What if this method had included traveling to Latin America, Africa, Asia, or the Middle East? And what if “talking to people” had included reading the speeches and writings of the historic leaders and important intellectuals of these lands? If some of the youth in the movement that Nellie analyzes had followed a more global and historical method, surely they would have been able to contribute greater maturity to the U.S. movement.

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Al Brown's avatar

Excellent discussion. While listening to Ms. Bowles's description of how the Illiberal Left has taken over our liberal institutions, I suddenly realized how closely their playbook maps to that of the Illiberal Right in taking over the Republican Party and the House of Representatives. If we are to save our liberal democratic republic, we need to find a way to break this pernicious Horseshoe off our necks.

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Gregor's avatar

I agree with a lot of the points, but the argument is undermined by what I'll generously call "mistruths". "And the mainstream media intentionally ignored it because they too wanted to believe in the rhetoric." Really? It took me 10 seconds to find the NYT's coverage of the killing. Question the thoroughness and potential bias in the story, yes, but why claim it was "ignored", when it obviously wasn't?

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Unset's avatar

I think is fair to say they ignored it. They ignored the violence of the place for as long as they could get away with it. Then when it rose to the level of homicide and they couldn't completely ignore it anymore, they did as little reporting as possible.

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Gregor's avatar

Then she should have said that. That’s different than “ignoring” it. Words matter and she, like so many in this age, chose the easy, dramatic overstatement rather than the complex truth which have requires her to engage further with the truth instead of just proceeding from the assumption that the Times is, ipso facto, driven purely by a woke agenda. It’s lazy and makes her guilty of the very thing of which she’s accusing them.

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Unset's avatar

But they did ignore it. The truth in this case is not that complex.

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Gregor's avatar

Ok, stick with your “start with the conclusion that best fits my worldview and work backwards” approach, however counterproductive it may be!

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Unset's avatar

Actually, I patiently explained to you why the word was apt it sounds like you will be taking your own advice though.

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Gregor's avatar

ignore, v.

transitive. To refuse to acknowledge (a person or thing); to disregard intentionally.

A dozen articles doesn’t qualify. Find another word. Ignore is more accurately applied to what I will do to any further replies.

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What has happened to white high-school boys is a bifurcation. The ones with parents who understand what leads to success, are secretly white, they secretly work hard, secretly get to school on time, secretly prepare assiduously for their SATs, and secretly get high grades. They still want to get into the best colleges because they understand this too shall pass, and if they are gulled into believing the anti-racist self flagellation they will simply be left behind. So they "pass," which is interesting because this is an inversion of years past when Blacks who "passed" as white had a greater chance of success. Then of course there are the white boys who actually buy the self flagellation model and they miss out on college, self esteem, and fall into despair. White Girls on the other hand seem able to succeed only if they both self flagellate and only succeed in moderation. The opening is for the non-black, non-white students though. We all expect the Indian or the Chinese kids to work hard, get good SAT scores, because they are simply not required to self-flagellate in order to escape the opprobrium of whiteness. White boys who "pass" will pass but those who do not will end up on the streets of Philadelphia dying of fentanyl. And what is saddest of all is none of this will help Black boys get into college in the least. And in the end we all secretly only really hire the most competent heart surgeons and most competent lawyers. So finally, this is all just a wretched dance, since the whites boys who are secretly white still win most of all.

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blazintommyd's avatar

The SPM goal is profit and staying in power - fundamental rights Life Liberty and Property aren't even discussed anymore because the Profit Class have those things and they are safe and secure in Their "zones" because the SPM serves them in valuable consideration for rendering government and thus all of society 100% reliant on The Profit Class for all government spending money. So the Profit Class is the eye atop the Pyramid, the government class is the next stratification below - a demilitarized zone - between The Profit Class and the masses. The media floats atop the masses occasionally a hand reaches down and says "wanna come up for a while, we got a story for you to write or else I'm going to have to let you go".

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