An actual coup requires military support (or the FBI, CIA, etc.). Did Trump or the rioters get (or even try to get) any military support. Of course, not. Riots are not 'coups'. To launch a 'coup' in a well-armed country, you need guns (the support of people with guns). Trump never even tried to get the support of the support of people with guns. Of course, you can still have riots. For example, the US had BLM riots in 2020.
A 'coup' can't happen without the support of the 'guys with guns'. Did Trump attempt to enlist the 'guys with guns'? No. Will that dent your fantasies? Probably not. Quote from General Milley (hardly a Trump supporter). "You can’t do this without the CIA and the FBI. We’re the guys with the guns". The 'coup attempt' only exists in your imagination. The riot on 2021/1/6 was actually the end of the world. The riots in 2020 we just 'mostly peaceful protests'. Now we know.
Note that I pointed out (and quoted from General Milley) that a coup requires the support of 'the guys with guns'. Trump never tried to get such support. That's the bottom line, even if you don't like it.
This is just a semantics issue. If Pence had been terrifed into submission by Trump's mob, and refused to certify some electoral votes on 1/6, and Trump ultimately prevailed on a 5-4 decision by the Supreme Court (with three of his appointed lackeys voting on his side), would that have been a coup? Not by your definition, sure, but so what?
If an asteroid 10 miles wide crashed into Mexico tomorrow, it is rather likely that all humans would die? So what? It is a hypothetical outcome and almost certainly won't happen. Our you suggesting that General Milley was/is wrong? By the way, you haven't read the Constitution. If Pence refused to certify the election, the next step is the House (see Article II, Section I of the Constitution). Since the House was/is controlled by the Democrats, they would have immediately chosen Biden as President.
I think it's you who haven't read the Constitution. The vote in the House would have been state by state, with each state getting one vote. If all states with Republican-dominated House delegations voted for Trump (as would be expected), Trump would have won.
Exactly, how many rioters brought guns to the 1/6 riot? 4? How many guns do the CIA/FBI have? 4,000++? How many guns does the military have? 4,000,000 perhaps? A riot is not an an attempt to overthrow the Constitution, unless you want to define the BLM riots as an 'attempt to overthrow the Constitution'. Was CHAZ an 'attempt to overthrow the Constitution'? CHAZ lasted a lot longer than the 1/6 riot.
Quoting from General Milley is now an 'alternative fact'? I didn't know that. You need to work on General Milley. Tell him how wrong he was/is. Set him straight. Should be rather easy.
Before you attempt to convince me, perhaps you should work on that well-known Trumpist, General Milley. Maybe you can convince him. Good luck with that.
Democrats clearly don't believe their own hype about Trump or any of thier opposition candidates. Every Republic is pilloried as the new coming of Hitler, and yet each one is claimed to some how be worse than the last. This has already started with DeSantis, yes the DeSantis is worse than Trump propaganda has started. The Eddie Murphy movie Trading Places is the best allegory for American politics I have ever seen.
Maybe, just maybe, Democrats aren’t any more concerned about the fate of liberal democracy in the United States than Republicans and only want to be in a position to snatch up the political pieces if, or when, it crumbles?
I'm hard-pressed to believe that this tactic worked in Illinois as well considering the margin Bailey won by. I do think that Irvin would have had a decent shot at beating Pritzker though, or at least giving him a race, which would have actually been good for the state.
Which is why we need a centrist, practical third party. That party would only need to attract 15% of the vote to pull the other parties back toward sanity.
An actual coup requires military support (or the FBI, CIA, etc.). Did Trump or the rioters get (or even try to get) any military support. Of course, not. Riots are not 'coups'. To launch a 'coup' in a well-armed country, you need guns (the support of people with guns). Trump never even tried to get the support of the support of people with guns. Of course, you can still have riots. For example, the US had BLM riots in 2020.
A 'coup' can't happen without the support of the 'guys with guns'. Did Trump attempt to enlist the 'guys with guns'? No. Will that dent your fantasies? Probably not. Quote from General Milley (hardly a Trump supporter). "You can’t do this without the CIA and the FBI. We’re the guys with the guns". The 'coup attempt' only exists in your imagination. The riot on 2021/1/6 was actually the end of the world. The riots in 2020 we just 'mostly peaceful protests'. Now we know.
Note that I pointed out (and quoted from General Milley) that a coup requires the support of 'the guys with guns'. Trump never tried to get such support. That's the bottom line, even if you don't like it.
This is just a semantics issue. If Pence had been terrifed into submission by Trump's mob, and refused to certify some electoral votes on 1/6, and Trump ultimately prevailed on a 5-4 decision by the Supreme Court (with three of his appointed lackeys voting on his side), would that have been a coup? Not by your definition, sure, but so what?
If an asteroid 10 miles wide crashed into Mexico tomorrow, it is rather likely that all humans would die? So what? It is a hypothetical outcome and almost certainly won't happen. Our you suggesting that General Milley was/is wrong? By the way, you haven't read the Constitution. If Pence refused to certify the election, the next step is the House (see Article II, Section I of the Constitution). Since the House was/is controlled by the Democrats, they would have immediately chosen Biden as President.
I think it's you who haven't read the Constitution. The vote in the House would have been state by state, with each state getting one vote. If all states with Republican-dominated House delegations voted for Trump (as would be expected), Trump would have won.
Exactly, how many rioters brought guns to the 1/6 riot? 4? How many guns do the CIA/FBI have? 4,000++? How many guns does the military have? 4,000,000 perhaps? A riot is not an an attempt to overthrow the Constitution, unless you want to define the BLM riots as an 'attempt to overthrow the Constitution'. Was CHAZ an 'attempt to overthrow the Constitution'? CHAZ lasted a lot longer than the 1/6 riot.
I have facts (and quotes from General Milley). What do you have? Overheated emotions? Fantasies? Hysteria?
Quoting from General Milley is now an 'alternative fact'? I didn't know that. You need to work on General Milley. Tell him how wrong he was/is. Set him straight. Should be rather easy.
Before you attempt to convince me, perhaps you should work on that well-known Trumpist, General Milley. Maybe you can convince him. Good luck with that.
Democrats clearly don't believe their own hype about Trump or any of thier opposition candidates. Every Republic is pilloried as the new coming of Hitler, and yet each one is claimed to some how be worse than the last. This has already started with DeSantis, yes the DeSantis is worse than Trump propaganda has started. The Eddie Murphy movie Trading Places is the best allegory for American politics I have ever seen.
Maybe, just maybe, Democrats aren’t any more concerned about the fate of liberal democracy in the United States than Republicans and only want to be in a position to snatch up the political pieces if, or when, it crumbles?
I'm hard-pressed to believe that this tactic worked in Illinois as well considering the margin Bailey won by. I do think that Irvin would have had a decent shot at beating Pritzker though, or at least giving him a race, which would have actually been good for the state.
The Democrats seem to be doing everything in their power to put the Republicans back in charge.
Which is why we need a centrist, practical third party. That party would only need to attract 15% of the vote to pull the other parties back toward sanity.