Completely disagree. I didn't vote for Trump and don't like him, but the case is a real stretch at best. He has already been subject to so many politically-motivated investigations and procedures, and we now know the FBI already interferred with the 2020 election by refusing to investigate the Hunter Biden laptop and falsely suggesting it was fake, encouraging news organizations to suppress the story, which they dutifully did. The optics are terrible, and not just to Trump supporters.
Correct, no one is above the law, but we need to stop picking and choosing who is prosecuted based on their political alignment. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the the guy, not even before he was a candidate. Until the same people who are demanding Trumps head, start demanding the heads of Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Anthony Fauci, Joe & Hunter Biden you have no credibility. Jan 6 was a disgrace, as were the BLM riots, Antifa and proud boys. I have very little respect for republican leadership, but over the last 6 years, I have even less respect for democrat hypocrisy. The Jan 6 hearings had potential to change minds and be meaningful IF it shed light on the shenanigans that involved both parties, the DOJ and FBI. Now it is just more ridiculous Trump Derangement Syndrome that turns off independent thinking liberals like myself. If democrats are to ever regain the trust of the working class, we need to clean up and clean out our own house before we try to clean up the republicans. But what does a commoner like me know.
Nobody is above the law except Hillary Clinton, Hunter Biden, Peter Strozk, James Comey, and anyone in the woke mob. The Democrat double standard is breathtaking.
A compelling case for prosecution, but interesting that not a word about the application of such an argument to Hillary Clinton.
The failure to apply the same reasoning undercuts trust in the principle of equal treatment under the law and bolsters arguments for justice department political bias.
The DOJ and the United States writ large are in a pickle. Those of us without a legal education should probably quiet down and give thanks that we do not have to make these difficult decisions. We are living through anxious and historic days, trying to make sense of what is happening. Thank you for this article. Now we watch and wait.
From a moderate who believes in liberal democracy. Somebody get a rope! This man threatens our democracy, undermines it every chance he gets. He is a selfish, self centered, egomaniac that cares nothing for “our nation”. The most poignant of those being his complacency and inciting actions of Jan 6. He did both, was complacent and inciting. Again he threatens our democracy and the precedence that needs to be enshrined is that it won’t be tolerated.
Comparing what he did, has done to anything Hillary Clinton did is contemptible. I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, but she didn’t threaten our democracy.
Excellent article. Clearly it was written even before the Department of Justice outlined the great lengths it took to obtain the highly secret documents carelessly placed at Mar A Lago, and the lying and obstruction of justice done by Trump and/or his representatives. I don't see how Trump can weasel out this time.
By a perfect synchronicity, I read the comments section just as I was finishing Garrett Graff's history of Watergate. Remembering how after the smoking gun tape even Nixon's most hardcore defenders stopped denying his guilt made quite the contrast to the words I was reading here.
Your article includes the quote, "when Trump spent months undermining public confidence in the presidential election". Untrue! What undermines public confidence in any election is when there is credible evidence of fraud and the entire election apparatus, in conjunction with our judicial system, goes overboard to bury their heads in the sand, look the other way, deflect and otherwise try to convince the public that there is nothing to see here. None of the lawsuits were adjudicated on their merits. They were dismissed by cowardly judges who did not want to find the truth. A dismissed suit is not an adjudicated suit. People are upset! This is what prompted the events of January 6th. Liz Cheney and her committee, the Department of Justice, mainstream media, and your article all miss the point.
The article was about mishandling of classified documents and whether Trump should be prosecuted for it. It WAS NOT about other potential crimes that he (or Hillary) may have committed. If you expand the scope of the debate so broadly, then the comparison will in fact be "apples to oranges".
I disagree emphatically with your perspective. The legal issues are beyond my competence, but the societal issues seem obvious. Criminal prosecution of a former President who retains nearly fanatic popularity within a large segment of the population is another step on the destruction of the American political system. The first impeachment effort against Trump was dangerous folly, that in my mind could not have possibly achieved a positive result. Criminal prosecution now would be far worse.
Completely disagree. I didn't vote for Trump and don't like him, but the case is a real stretch at best. He has already been subject to so many politically-motivated investigations and procedures, and we now know the FBI already interferred with the 2020 election by refusing to investigate the Hunter Biden laptop and falsely suggesting it was fake, encouraging news organizations to suppress the story, which they dutifully did. The optics are terrible, and not just to Trump supporters.
Correct, no one is above the law, but we need to stop picking and choosing who is prosecuted based on their political alignment. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the the guy, not even before he was a candidate. Until the same people who are demanding Trumps head, start demanding the heads of Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Anthony Fauci, Joe & Hunter Biden you have no credibility. Jan 6 was a disgrace, as were the BLM riots, Antifa and proud boys. I have very little respect for republican leadership, but over the last 6 years, I have even less respect for democrat hypocrisy. The Jan 6 hearings had potential to change minds and be meaningful IF it shed light on the shenanigans that involved both parties, the DOJ and FBI. Now it is just more ridiculous Trump Derangement Syndrome that turns off independent thinking liberals like myself. If democrats are to ever regain the trust of the working class, we need to clean up and clean out our own house before we try to clean up the republicans. But what does a commoner like me know.
Nobody is above the law except Hillary Clinton, Hunter Biden, Peter Strozk, James Comey, and anyone in the woke mob. The Democrat double standard is breathtaking.
A compelling case for prosecution, but interesting that not a word about the application of such an argument to Hillary Clinton.
The failure to apply the same reasoning undercuts trust in the principle of equal treatment under the law and bolsters arguments for justice department political bias.
The DOJ and the United States writ large are in a pickle. Those of us without a legal education should probably quiet down and give thanks that we do not have to make these difficult decisions. We are living through anxious and historic days, trying to make sense of what is happening. Thank you for this article. Now we watch and wait.
From a moderate who believes in liberal democracy. Somebody get a rope! This man threatens our democracy, undermines it every chance he gets. He is a selfish, self centered, egomaniac that cares nothing for “our nation”. The most poignant of those being his complacency and inciting actions of Jan 6. He did both, was complacent and inciting. Again he threatens our democracy and the precedence that needs to be enshrined is that it won’t be tolerated.
Comparing what he did, has done to anything Hillary Clinton did is contemptible. I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, but she didn’t threaten our democracy.
Excellent article. Clearly it was written even before the Department of Justice outlined the great lengths it took to obtain the highly secret documents carelessly placed at Mar A Lago, and the lying and obstruction of justice done by Trump and/or his representatives. I don't see how Trump can weasel out this time.
Excellent article!!
By a perfect synchronicity, I read the comments section just as I was finishing Garrett Graff's history of Watergate. Remembering how after the smoking gun tape even Nixon's most hardcore defenders stopped denying his guilt made quite the contrast to the words I was reading here.
Your article includes the quote, "when Trump spent months undermining public confidence in the presidential election". Untrue! What undermines public confidence in any election is when there is credible evidence of fraud and the entire election apparatus, in conjunction with our judicial system, goes overboard to bury their heads in the sand, look the other way, deflect and otherwise try to convince the public that there is nothing to see here. None of the lawsuits were adjudicated on their merits. They were dismissed by cowardly judges who did not want to find the truth. A dismissed suit is not an adjudicated suit. People are upset! This is what prompted the events of January 6th. Liz Cheney and her committee, the Department of Justice, mainstream media, and your article all miss the point.
In the unlikely event anyone doesn’t pick up on your political bent, deploy a phrase that includes the words “descended the escalator.”
Holy cow there seem to be a lot of Trumpsters on this thread. I don't see you guys in the discussion groups--why?
The article was about mishandling of classified documents and whether Trump should be prosecuted for it. It WAS NOT about other potential crimes that he (or Hillary) may have committed. If you expand the scope of the debate so broadly, then the comparison will in fact be "apples to oranges".
As for Sarah's claims about Hillary's veracity, see https://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/clintons-handling-of-classified-information/
I disagree emphatically with your perspective. The legal issues are beyond my competence, but the societal issues seem obvious. Criminal prosecution of a former President who retains nearly fanatic popularity within a large segment of the population is another step on the destruction of the American political system. The first impeachment effort against Trump was dangerous folly, that in my mind could not have possibly achieved a positive result. Criminal prosecution now would be far worse.