I agree: we need a more coherent title and a message that goes beyond anti-"he who shall not be named." The Democratic Party seems reluctant or unable to articulate a set of principles that should guide us going forward. So it falls to the unelected leaders, perhaps, to begin to craft that message. One thing is for sure: if all we can do is march around in funny costumes carry signs, it won't win the hearts and minds of those who long for some substance not just performance.
I’m glad it was uplifting. I’m glad it wasn’t violent. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Those are all good things.
No Kings however, like McBeth, is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing.
Trump was unmoved. MAGA was unmoved. Were Independents unmoved? We’ll see.
Meanwhile, thanks to appeals, Trump will now send in the National Guard to Portland. ANTIFA will gleefully oblige. The Insurrection Act is being publicly floated. We can only guess where all this goes from here. Stay tuned.
The old liberal Q-Tips, furries and freaky people with a personality disorder craving constant validation that they are special... deserving of yet another pride parade... having been so terribly lied to over the last couple of decades that their party agenda was relevant and loved by the majority when it was only the brilliant left-media-powered "emotional terrorism" network of corruption that allowed them to win... are in complete self-denial and resistance to the truth and facts that their brand of politics was never loved, and became even more disliked from their pandemic era behavior.
A party can only go so far with indoctrinated rage at artificial enemies. At some point that old saw runs out of teeth.
Their protests are their last dying gasp.
Those that know this are militant in their defense to prevent Trump from dismantling that democracy-destroying dream machine they built over the last half decade. The rest have not figured it out. And none of them will accept, yet, that for the Democrat party to be popular again they would have to adopt most, if not all, of Trump's ideas and platform (if not his methods).
Great post and always good to see citizens engaging in first amendment protected assembly in a peaceful manner. I do agree with you it doesn’t see to be beneficial politically, But does represent a real catharsis for lots of Americans who might be locked out of power currently.
The only way to defeat Trump or MAGA is at the ballot box. And to do that democrats must make themselves attractive, that area currently needs work.
First of all, it was good for morale. If you remember how weak and defeated the opposition felt earlier in the year, now we're not afraid to stand up, and to see how many people are willing to stand with us.
Second, with how overwhelmingly peaceful and patriotic the demonstrations were, it showed that it's not 2020 anymore, that we've learned from our past screwups.
Third, in case anybody needed a reminder of what sick bastards we're dealing with, Trump and his people were happy to supply it. How abusive do you have to be to put out a video about dropping shit on people? If we're going to craft a policy agenda that the opposition to Trump can unite around, the principle that everyone has the right not to be treated like that could be a good start
Sounded like a fun party. The question I like to ask TDS and complainers is "Exactly what Biden/Harris policy were you voting for, or what Trump policy had you voted against?" Blank faces is the usual response. As for me, and I suspect most of the 77 million others that voted for Trump, we were steadfast against the open borders policy and +10M illegal immigrants. I don't agree with exactly how that is going, but am glad you enjoyed your party and that Trump is at least doing something. Washington seems the better for his actions as well. BTW what exactly will you do if you dethrone the King?
I didn’t go to the protests for one reason only: I don’t want to see Palestinian flags. I am glad there were fewer than expected but even one is one too many. I am speaking as somebody who has had many Palestinian students and until October 7, I was broadly sympathetic to the two-state solution. But having been in London on October 8 2023 and seeing mobs braying for Jewish blood before the bodies were counted, I am done with the “pro-Palestinian” wing of the Democrats. These people are pro-Hamas, which is to say, pro-genocide. There are no ifs and buts about it, and the clearest proof is that as Hamas is murdering “collaborators” in Gaza, they are silent or approving. As long as the Democrats are supporting the genocide against Jews and Israelis (the two are not synonymous, by the way), they will never get my vote. Trump negotiated the Abraham Accords. Trump has negotiated the current shaky ceasefire that, at least, allowed the return of the hostages. What did Biden do? What are the Democrats proposing to do except giving more money to Hamas?
Let's remember that the basic idea of No Kings is the anti-Trump idea: to protest Donald Trump's autocratic pretensions. One might even say that speeches *for* something other than the constitution and the rule of law have no place in it; especially Democratic policy offerings. I say that as a Democrat.
It's extremely important to mobilize people against what Trump is doing now, regardless of political self-identification or receptivity to particular ideas. That's why No Kings is drawing big crowds of people who are not partisan activists. As for the positive response to Bernie Sanders's standard stump speech, that's to be expected wherever Bernie and a certain number of Bernie supporters show up. It doesn't mean he got to the heart of the matter for most of the marchers.
It’s extremely important to get our party to win elections, and if we can do that through vibes, then I’ll be happy as a clam. However I suspect we will need quite a bit more, more than even well-attended marches against the dictatorial tendencies of our POTUS, which as a resonating issue has given us little help at the ballot box thus far. Maybe this time will be different, since the appalling man’s overreach has hit new levels of brazenness. But I have given up predicting on where the line is for the average independent or right of center voter when our own party is so deeply dislikable and ineffectual to far too many of them. Go to marches excoriating Trump’s autocratic tendencies, absolutely. But beyond that, physician: heal thyself.
There were two points to this exercise. The first was to demonstrate a large and committed resistance to Trump’s attempts to establish a military dictatorship. The protestors were signaling that further aggression along this line will be met with further resistance. The second was to discredit administration claims that this resistance represents an insurrection. The animal costumes and the playfulness were proof that a withdrawal by Trump to historically accepted norms will result in normal opposition. But the costumes are a gloved fist. The response by Trump that he welcomes violence is a challenge that American patriots cannot finesse. Trump seems to be telling us that he will not be restrained in any way. At some point this must be addressed. Until that point is reached and a large proportion of our country realizes the stakes, the best approach will continue to be non-violence. However, in the end there may be no choice.
For those Democrats abroad who felt the need to change "No Kings" to "No Tyrants", don't apologize, but do study history. We live in constitutional democratic republic founded on the principle of "no kings".
What you saw, and will always see in any functioning if imperfect democracy, and especially one as diverse as ours, was exactly that: a broad tent of democratic norms and laws providing shelter to diverse and emerging views, as well as some outdated or outmoded ones. Don't you think we should be celebrating that, rather than nit-picking about it? As for what.comes next, that's where the rubber meets the road. I am today cancelling my Amazon Prime account, which I've held onto for convenience sake since the pandemic. Far too long. Mea Culpa. If we are at Defcon 1 here, and I fear we are when it comes to defending our rights, we ought to start acting like it. So boycotts are a start. And don't forget to contact your reps in Congress. I write them once a week, even though one is a Republican wholly owned by corporate buddies, one is a Democrat and brain damaged, and (happily) one is a young Dem on the rise who dared to make speeches at around a half-dozen anti Trump rallies in his district on Saturday. Be loud, be proud and be active!
At least His Royal Highness waited until No Kings Day was over before he started tearing down the old building, the White House, so he could start building his new Palace. When the country elects a narcissistic real estate developer what do you expect? As Mike Johnson opined last week, "You need to understand. The rules have changed".
I agree: we need a more coherent title and a message that goes beyond anti-"he who shall not be named." The Democratic Party seems reluctant or unable to articulate a set of principles that should guide us going forward. So it falls to the unelected leaders, perhaps, to begin to craft that message. One thing is for sure: if all we can do is march around in funny costumes carry signs, it won't win the hearts and minds of those who long for some substance not just performance.
I’m glad it was uplifting. I’m glad it wasn’t violent. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Those are all good things.
No Kings however, like McBeth, is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing.
Trump was unmoved. MAGA was unmoved. Were Independents unmoved? We’ll see.
Meanwhile, thanks to appeals, Trump will now send in the National Guard to Portland. ANTIFA will gleefully oblige. The Insurrection Act is being publicly floated. We can only guess where all this goes from here. Stay tuned.
Your "Like McBeth" quotation is perfectly applied. That is all I expected and all I need to know of this event.
The old liberal Q-Tips, furries and freaky people with a personality disorder craving constant validation that they are special... deserving of yet another pride parade... having been so terribly lied to over the last couple of decades that their party agenda was relevant and loved by the majority when it was only the brilliant left-media-powered "emotional terrorism" network of corruption that allowed them to win... are in complete self-denial and resistance to the truth and facts that their brand of politics was never loved, and became even more disliked from their pandemic era behavior.
A party can only go so far with indoctrinated rage at artificial enemies. At some point that old saw runs out of teeth.
Their protests are their last dying gasp.
Those that know this are militant in their defense to prevent Trump from dismantling that democracy-destroying dream machine they built over the last half decade. The rest have not figured it out. And none of them will accept, yet, that for the Democrat party to be popular again they would have to adopt most, if not all, of Trump's ideas and platform (if not his methods).
Yup. I’m a MAGA Dem.
Great post and always good to see citizens engaging in first amendment protected assembly in a peaceful manner. I do agree with you it doesn’t see to be beneficial politically, But does represent a real catharsis for lots of Americans who might be locked out of power currently.
The only way to defeat Trump or MAGA is at the ballot box. And to do that democrats must make themselves attractive, that area currently needs work.
First of all, it was good for morale. If you remember how weak and defeated the opposition felt earlier in the year, now we're not afraid to stand up, and to see how many people are willing to stand with us.
Second, with how overwhelmingly peaceful and patriotic the demonstrations were, it showed that it's not 2020 anymore, that we've learned from our past screwups.
Third, in case anybody needed a reminder of what sick bastards we're dealing with, Trump and his people were happy to supply it. How abusive do you have to be to put out a video about dropping shit on people? If we're going to craft a policy agenda that the opposition to Trump can unite around, the principle that everyone has the right not to be treated like that could be a good start
Sounded like a fun party. The question I like to ask TDS and complainers is "Exactly what Biden/Harris policy were you voting for, or what Trump policy had you voted against?" Blank faces is the usual response. As for me, and I suspect most of the 77 million others that voted for Trump, we were steadfast against the open borders policy and +10M illegal immigrants. I don't agree with exactly how that is going, but am glad you enjoyed your party and that Trump is at least doing something. Washington seems the better for his actions as well. BTW what exactly will you do if you dethrone the King?
I didn’t go to the protests for one reason only: I don’t want to see Palestinian flags. I am glad there were fewer than expected but even one is one too many. I am speaking as somebody who has had many Palestinian students and until October 7, I was broadly sympathetic to the two-state solution. But having been in London on October 8 2023 and seeing mobs braying for Jewish blood before the bodies were counted, I am done with the “pro-Palestinian” wing of the Democrats. These people are pro-Hamas, which is to say, pro-genocide. There are no ifs and buts about it, and the clearest proof is that as Hamas is murdering “collaborators” in Gaza, they are silent or approving. As long as the Democrats are supporting the genocide against Jews and Israelis (the two are not synonymous, by the way), they will never get my vote. Trump negotiated the Abraham Accords. Trump has negotiated the current shaky ceasefire that, at least, allowed the return of the hostages. What did Biden do? What are the Democrats proposing to do except giving more money to Hamas?
Let's remember that the basic idea of No Kings is the anti-Trump idea: to protest Donald Trump's autocratic pretensions. One might even say that speeches *for* something other than the constitution and the rule of law have no place in it; especially Democratic policy offerings. I say that as a Democrat.
It's extremely important to mobilize people against what Trump is doing now, regardless of political self-identification or receptivity to particular ideas. That's why No Kings is drawing big crowds of people who are not partisan activists. As for the positive response to Bernie Sanders's standard stump speech, that's to be expected wherever Bernie and a certain number of Bernie supporters show up. It doesn't mean he got to the heart of the matter for most of the marchers.
It’s extremely important to get our party to win elections, and if we can do that through vibes, then I’ll be happy as a clam. However I suspect we will need quite a bit more, more than even well-attended marches against the dictatorial tendencies of our POTUS, which as a resonating issue has given us little help at the ballot box thus far. Maybe this time will be different, since the appalling man’s overreach has hit new levels of brazenness. But I have given up predicting on where the line is for the average independent or right of center voter when our own party is so deeply dislikable and ineffectual to far too many of them. Go to marches excoriating Trump’s autocratic tendencies, absolutely. But beyond that, physician: heal thyself.
Good description, but your final question was what we are all asking but not yet answering: WHAT NEXT?
There were two points to this exercise. The first was to demonstrate a large and committed resistance to Trump’s attempts to establish a military dictatorship. The protestors were signaling that further aggression along this line will be met with further resistance. The second was to discredit administration claims that this resistance represents an insurrection. The animal costumes and the playfulness were proof that a withdrawal by Trump to historically accepted norms will result in normal opposition. But the costumes are a gloved fist. The response by Trump that he welcomes violence is a challenge that American patriots cannot finesse. Trump seems to be telling us that he will not be restrained in any way. At some point this must be addressed. Until that point is reached and a large proportion of our country realizes the stakes, the best approach will continue to be non-violence. However, in the end there may be no choice.
For those Democrats abroad who felt the need to change "No Kings" to "No Tyrants", don't apologize, but do study history. We live in constitutional democratic republic founded on the principle of "no kings".
What you saw, and will always see in any functioning if imperfect democracy, and especially one as diverse as ours, was exactly that: a broad tent of democratic norms and laws providing shelter to diverse and emerging views, as well as some outdated or outmoded ones. Don't you think we should be celebrating that, rather than nit-picking about it? As for what.comes next, that's where the rubber meets the road. I am today cancelling my Amazon Prime account, which I've held onto for convenience sake since the pandemic. Far too long. Mea Culpa. If we are at Defcon 1 here, and I fear we are when it comes to defending our rights, we ought to start acting like it. So boycotts are a start. And don't forget to contact your reps in Congress. I write them once a week, even though one is a Republican wholly owned by corporate buddies, one is a Democrat and brain damaged, and (happily) one is a young Dem on the rise who dared to make speeches at around a half-dozen anti Trump rallies in his district on Saturday. Be loud, be proud and be active!
At least His Royal Highness waited until No Kings Day was over before he started tearing down the old building, the White House, so he could start building his new Palace. When the country elects a narcissistic real estate developer what do you expect? As Mike Johnson opined last week, "You need to understand. The rules have changed".