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Lukas Bird's avatar

I’m glad it was uplifting. I’m glad it wasn’t violent. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Those are all good things.

No Kings however, like McBeth, is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing.

Trump was unmoved. MAGA was unmoved. Were Independents unmoved? We’ll see.

Meanwhile, thanks to appeals, Trump will now send in the National Guard to Portland. ANTIFA will gleefully oblige. The Insurrection Act is being publicly floated. We can only guess where all this goes from here. Stay tuned.

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CarlW's avatar

Your "Like McBeth" quotation is perfectly applied. That is all I expected and all I need to know of this event.

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Silvio Nardoni's avatar

I agree: we need a more coherent title and a message that goes beyond anti-"he who shall not be named." The Democratic Party seems reluctant or unable to articulate a set of principles that should guide us going forward. So it falls to the unelected leaders, perhaps, to begin to craft that message. One thing is for sure: if all we can do is march around in funny costumes carry signs, it won't win the hearts and minds of those who long for some substance not just performance.

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Frank Lee's avatar

The old liberal Q-Tips, furries and freaky people with a personality disorder craving constant validation that they are special... deserving of yet another pride parade... having been so terribly lied to over the last couple of decades that their party agenda was relevant and loved by the majority when it was only the brilliant left-media-powered "emotional terrorism" network of corruption that allowed them to win... are in complete self-denial and resistance to the truth and facts that their brand of politics was never loved, and became even more disliked from their pandemic era behavior.

A party can only go so far with indoctrinated rage at artificial enemies. At some point that old saw runs out of teeth.

Their protests are their last dying gasp.

Those that know this are militant in their defense to prevent Trump from dismantling that democracy-destroying dream machine they built over the last half decade. The rest have not figured it out. And none of them will accept, yet, that for the Democrat party to be popular again they would have to adopt most, if not all, of Trump's ideas and platform (if not his methods).

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Liberal, not Leftist's avatar

Yup. I’m a MAGA Dem.

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jon cooper's avatar

Great post and always good to see citizens engaging in first amendment protected assembly in a peaceful manner. I do agree with you it doesn’t see to be beneficial politically, But does represent a real catharsis for lots of Americans who might be locked out of power currently.

The only way to defeat Trump or MAGA is at the ballot box. And to do that democrats must make themselves attractive, that area currently needs work.

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Wayne Karol's avatar

First of all, it was good for morale. If you remember how weak and defeated the opposition felt earlier in the year, now we're not afraid to stand up, and to see how many people are willing to stand with us.

Second, with how overwhelmingly peaceful and patriotic the demonstrations were, it showed that it's not 2020 anymore, that we've learned from our past screwups.

Third, in case anybody needed a reminder of what sick bastards we're dealing with, Trump and his people were happy to supply it. How abusive do you have to be to put out a video about dropping shit on people? If we're going to craft a policy agenda that the opposition to Trump can unite around, the principle that everyone has the right not to be treated like that could be a good start

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Longestaffe's avatar

Let's remember that the basic idea of No Kings is the anti-Trump idea: to protest Donald Trump's autocratic pretensions. One might even say that speeches *for* something other than the constitution and the rule of law have no place in it; especially Democratic policy offerings. I say that as a Democrat.

It's extremely important to mobilize people against what Trump is doing now, regardless of political self-identification or receptivity to particular ideas. That's why No Kings is drawing big crowds of people who are not partisan activists. As for the positive response to Bernie Sanders's standard stump speech, that's to be expected wherever Bernie and a certain number of Bernie supporters show up. It doesn't mean he got to the heart of the matter for most of the marchers.

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McFife's avatar

It’s extremely important to get our party to win elections, and if we can do that through vibes, then I’ll be happy as a clam. However I suspect we will need quite a bit more, more than even well-attended marches against the dictatorial tendencies of our POTUS, which as a resonating issue has given us little help at the ballot box thus far. Maybe this time will be different, since the appalling man’s overreach has hit new levels of brazenness. But I have given up predicting on where the line is for the average independent or right of center voter when our own party is so deeply dislikable and ineffectual to far too many of them. Go to marches excoriating Trump’s autocratic tendencies, absolutely. But beyond that, physician: heal thyself.

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Paul Scham's avatar

Good description, but your final question was what we are all asking but not yet answering: WHAT NEXT?

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Charles Oltorf's avatar

There were two points to this exercise. The first was to demonstrate a large and committed resistance to Trump’s attempts to establish a military dictatorship. The protestors were signaling that further aggression along this line will be met with further resistance. The second was to discredit administration claims that this resistance represents an insurrection. The animal costumes and the playfulness were proof that a withdrawal by Trump to historically accepted norms will result in normal opposition. But the costumes are a gloved fist. The response by Trump that he welcomes violence is a challenge that American patriots cannot finesse. Trump seems to be telling us that he will not be restrained in any way. At some point this must be addressed. Until that point is reached and a large proportion of our country realizes the stakes, the best approach will continue to be non-violence. However, in the end there may be no choice.

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Ralph J Hodosh's avatar

For those Democrats abroad who felt the need to change "No Kings" to "No Tyrants", don't apologize, but do study history. We live in constitutional democratic republic founded on the principle of "no kings".

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Warden Gulley's avatar

At least His Royal Highness waited until No Kings Day was over before he started tearing down the old building, the White House, so he could start building his new Palace. When the country elects a narcissistic real estate developer what do you expect? As Mike Johnson opined last week, "You need to understand. The rules have changed".

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