In the first half of the conversation, Frank Fukuyama interviews Dan Wang on his book Breakneck, and how the engineering state led to the disaster of the “one child” policy; in the second part, Dan queries Frank on his view of the Chinese Communist Party, his meeting with anti-corruption chief Wang Qishan, and other topics.
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Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.
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